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ASHBAD_ALVIN

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Re: 'DE
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2010, 11:04:47 am »
Holy s***...

now, that is a good OS right there!
'DE would be much better on KOS it sounds from this (cuz objects take up tons of space), but I'll still have to talk to builderboy about it.
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2010, 11:08:21 am »
That's around 15K of space when not in exclusive mode.  However, this is shared with other programs.  I'm still playing with the idea of running programs on different pages, but keep in mind that you are sharing RAM with everyone else, and if your program takes up too much, the user will be able to do less with other programs at the same time.
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ASHBAD_ALVIN

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2010, 11:10:18 am »
oh, I see.  I thought it was going to be more than that.  Oh well :P

Is there going to be easy ways of working from archive (like with TIos flash apps)?
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SirCmpwn

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Re: 'DE
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2010, 11:12:09 am »
You mean running programs from the archive?  Probably not, due to how KOS works.  Also, keep in mind that when your program has exclusive control, it has access to all of the RAM.
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ASHBAD_ALVIN

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Re: 'DE
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2010, 11:12:45 am »
by all of the ram, is that one page, or is that 65 K?
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Re: 'DE
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2010, 11:15:40 am »
All of it.  You can only access one page if you are not in exclusive mode.
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ASHBAD_ALVIN

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Re: 'DE
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2010, 11:17:15 am »
Hmm, that would probably work for what I'm thinking of.  Well, before I start planning it for KOS, I'll wait to see what I can work with on it ;)

If it proves to be a plausible platform, then 'DE may be KOS exclusive :)
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2010, 11:18:02 am »
Great!  I'd love to see a KOS exclusive!  I'm thinking of making Mosiac KOS exclusive as well.
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Re: 'DE
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2010, 11:18:34 am »
Quote from: SirCmpwn on November 07, 2010, 11:18:02 am
Great!  I'd love to see a KOS exclusive!  I'm thinking of making Mosiac KOS exclusive as well.

KOS, when will it come BTW?
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ASHBAD_ALVIN

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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2010, 11:20:51 am »
Also, I'm just wondering how programs are structured in KOS.  Is there a VAT with ~13 bytes of data on the program, and then the program in a separate spot, or is it completely different?
* ASHBAD_ALVIN starts thinking of using KOS as mac and TIos as windows in a OS analogy :)
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Re: 'DE
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2010, 11:21:34 am »
Quote from: ASHBAD_ALVIN on November 07, 2010, 11:20:51 am
* ASHBAD_ALVIN starts thinking of using KOS as mac and TIos as windows in a OS analogy :)
Hahahah, that would be epic
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2010, 11:25:18 am »
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Also, I'm just wondering how programs are structured in KOS.  Is there a VAT with ~13 bytes of data on the program, and then the program in a separate spot, or is it completely different?
* ASHBAD_ALVIN starts thinking of using KOS as mac and TIos as windows in a OS analogy :)
First of all, KOS would never disgrace itself with the name of Mac.  Perhaps think of it as Linux (it actually is remarkably similar).
Programs are stored in ROM, within the Knight Filesystem, which is defined here.
If you are interested in using KnightOS, I would spend some time looking around the KnightOS subforum and getting an idea of what it is and how it works.
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Re: 'DE
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2010, 11:26:07 am »
ROM???
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ASHBAD_ALVIN

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Re: 'DE
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2010, 11:26:30 am »
okay, I'll do that.  Sounds like this would be an interesting platform for 'DE.
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SirCmpwn

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Re: 'DE
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2010, 11:27:06 am »
ROM == Archive.  I don't know what made TI think of using RAM for long-term storage, it is extremely volatile.  KnightOS actually clears RAM on boot.
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