Author Topic: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears (Read 328864 times)

Sorunome · « **Reply #465 on:** October 14, 2011, 02:57:04 pm »

Well, Axe 1.0.4 and above has a new feature: Zooming through a program instead of compiling. As there are shourtcuts to compile the programs in editing screen, it would be cool if there could also be a shourtcut for zooming it. And it is atm randomly weather it zooms or compiles.

Freyaday · « **Reply #466 on:** October 14, 2011, 04:59:35 pm »

Quote from: Sorunome on October 14, 2011, 02:57:04 pm

Well, Axe 1.0.4 and above has a new feature: Zooming through a program instead of compiling. As there are shourtcuts to compile the programs in editing screen, it would be cool if there could also be a shourtcut for zooming it. And it is atm randomly weather it zooms or compiles.

You're talking about pressing ZOOM to speed up compiling, right?

Mighty Moose · « **Reply #467 on:** October 14, 2011, 05:09:05 pm »

Actually, I think he is talking about the Goto function (like when you get a TI-Basic error).

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #468 on:** October 14, 2011, 05:41:07 pm »

Quote from: Hayleia on October 14, 2011, 02:19:00 pm

Quote from: Sorunome on October 14, 2011, 10:18:51 am
I found a bug: With OS 2.43 it doesn't display always the grayscale pic when turning calc on, with OS 2.55MP it worked... :S
The picture even works on my TI-83+BE (yes, I am mad )

Sorunome's problem is DCS. Go tell kerm to stop destroying ONSCRPT when he doesn't need to.

For Hayleia... I don't even know... There are so many reasons why this shouldn't work. Like, you don't even understand, if you were to ask would it work, my answer would be no, it would never work, ever.[/shock and awe]

After looking into it some more, you just pulled off the craziest hack I've ever seen. Some how, you managed to slip through all of the all of the weird memory maps that I use to pull the picture into the right spot (it doesn't work if the picture is in ram for instance). Then, the strangest part of it all, and the part that I thought was impossible to get around, was the crystal timers. You have managed to evade my crystal timers! And the way you do it is even weirder, your calculator reads data from the LCD thinking it is the crystal timer, and then when it hits a certain byte, it passes the test and continues to draw the picture.

The downsides

, if you have quite a few of things in ram, it will corrupt them. That amount is miniumum 8811 bytes, but more like 10,000 bytes in practice. Also, there are some pictures that will crash. If the last row of your picture is entirely white, it's going to crash. (It's slightly more specific, but that will do it.)

In all, awesome. zStart is the most anti-83+BE thing I've ever written and you made it work.

Quote from: Sorunome on October 14, 2011, 02:46:05 pm

I don't know what I changed......but it works now....wired......

Umm... yay?

Quote from: Sorunome on October 14, 2011, 02:57:04 pm

Well, Axe 1.0.4 and above has a new feature: Zooming through a program instead of compiling. As there are shourtcuts to compile the programs in editing screen, it would be cool if there could also be a shourtcut for zooming it. And it is atm randomly weather it zooms or compiles.

I'll talk to quigibo. He'll fix the problem, and then, hopefully, he'll give me the option to Zoom so I can give you the option to Zoom

Sorunome · « **Reply #469 on:** October 15, 2011, 03:14:37 am »

Quote from: thepenguin77 on October 14, 2011, 05:41:07 pm

Quote from: Sorunome on October 14, 2011, 02:46:05 pm
I don't know what I changed......but it works now....wired......
Umm... yay?

I found out why, I just deleted bouth DCS AppVars, the one in ROM AND the one in RAM.

aeTIos · « **Reply #470 on:** October 15, 2011, 04:10:04 am »

Thats what he said.
btw, its wether, not weather ( weather = wetter auf Deutsch)

Freyaday · « **Reply #471 on:** October 15, 2011, 09:14:12 am »

Quote from: aeTIos on October 15, 2011, 04:10:04 am

Thats what he said.
btw, its whether, not weather ( weather = wetter auf Deutsch)

Hint, hint.

Hayleia · « **Reply #472 on:** October 15, 2011, 09:37:53 am »

Quote from: thepenguin77 on October 14, 2011, 05:41:07 pm

After looking into it some more, you just pulled off the craziest hack I've ever seen.
-snip-
In all, awesome. zStart is the most anti-83+BE thing I've ever written and you made it work.

I just put zStart on my calc, nothing more.
~~Yeah ! I'm awesome and I don't know it~~

Quote from: thepenguin77 on October 14, 2011, 05:41:07 pm

The downsides , if you have quite a few of things in ram, it will corrupt them. That amount is miniumum 8811 bytes, but more like 10,000 bytes in practice.

What ? You mean that if I have less than 10,000 bytes of things in RAM it crashes ? :O

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #473 on:** October 15, 2011, 09:48:48 am »

Well, here's what happens. I copy the picture to the address $C000. When I do it (on non 83+BE calculators) I put ram page $82 there (the extra one) so no memory is destroyed.

However, your calculator can't do that. When I copy the picture to $C000, I'm literally copying it into your user memory. To understand better, user memory starts at $9D95 and works its way up. After you add 8,811 bytes to that, you are going to start moving into the $C000 region. This means that when the picture displays, it's going to corrupt anything from $C000 and up (well really just to $C600).

Now, the reason that I say the amount of memory is more like 10,000 is because there is other stuff (like the vat) that takes up memory space too. The vat starts at $FC00 (about) and works it's way downwards. So what I am saying is that by the time the lower half of user memory (where your programs and such are stored) makes it up to $C000, the amount of stuff in the vat will be at about 1,200 bytes making your total 10,000.

Wow, that might be the most parenthesis I've ever used.

Sorunome · « **Reply #474 on:** October 15, 2011, 10:54:30 am »

I got another idea: Is it somehow possible to get the DCS hooks that you can run calc-net programs? And it would be awesome if the basic libs could also be inserted, it may be that you have to swap between omnicalc and DCS libs with a short-cut key 'cause xLib uses the real( token just as omnicalc also uses it....Well, it would be awesome if that would work.

mrmprog · « **Reply #475 on:** October 15, 2011, 04:27:52 pm »

The axe code does exactly what I wanted, thanks! Now I can make a password program that will run on RAM clears!

Darl181 · « **Reply #476 on:** October 15, 2011, 05:24:21 pm »

What order does zStart do things on a RAM clear? What action happens first, second, etc (stuff like omnicalc installing, program to be run on RAM clear run, stuff like that)

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #477 on:** October 15, 2011, 09:48:59 pm »

Quote from: mrmprog on October 15, 2011, 04:27:52 pm

The axe code does exactly what I wanted, thanks! Now I can make a password program that will run on RAM clears!

Go to the homescreen, pull a battery, turn it on

Sorry about that.

Quote from: Darl181 on October 15, 2011, 05:24:21 pm

What order does zStart do thins on a RAM clear? What action happens first, second, etc (stuff like omnicalc installing, program to be run on RAM clear run, stuff like that)

Check Clear
Jump to app
Check Vars and Clear
Close edit buffer
Load appVar

=================== From here down runs when you quit zStart also ========================

Check installed flag
Do degress/radians
Do Diagnostic mode
Do mathprint, mathprint popup, and stat wizards
Install catalog help hook
Install axe hook
Clear port (2E) delay (making ONSCRPT if necessary)
Set font hook (making the first VAT entry if necessary)
Handle picture (making OFFSCRPT if necessary)
Set contrast
Set ALCDFIX delay
Make Omnicalc appvar and set hooks (first VAT entry)
Unlock $C000 (ONSCRPT)
Set programs parser hook (first VAT entry)
Set shortcut rawKeyHook
Disable the headphone hack if it is running
Run "Run on zStart" program

=================== From here down only happens on ramclears ==================

Run "Run on RamClear" program
Reopen edit buffer
Jump to specific ram cleared message

Hopefully this clears it all up and you can trace back any problems you might have had or will have. (It also shows just how much crap I have in this app

)

Darl181 · « **Reply #478 on:** October 15, 2011, 10:50:03 pm »

Ok cool, so it installs stuff before running the program. So this just might work...
(making a prog to run on ram clears, a basic prog that can automatically restore using omnicalc if desired)

Hayleia · « **Reply #479 on:** October 24, 2011, 08:38:12 am »

Feature Wishlist:
Compatibility of the Homerun hook with Grammer progs (of course if we have the Grammer app).
This would be very great

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