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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #660 on: February 24, 2012, 02:30:33 am »
-Feature request: for the 83+BE, there is not a lot of Rom. So even with smart writeback, GarbageCollecting is frequent (and annoying). Maybe you could add an option "Never writeback" ?
In case you didn't know, MirageOS has this feature.
I know, but it doesn't have "run from homescreen" :(
In fact, I got this idea from MirageOS ;)

So if we use MirageOS as a shell, the options within Mirage apply?
I don't really know but I don't think so: I use zStart with MirageOS as shell with the option "never writeback" and it did writeback. I guess zStart only uses the librairies in the shell.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #661 on: February 24, 2012, 03:49:20 am »
WOw, I REALLY have missed something O.o
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #662 on: February 27, 2012, 03:15:49 pm »
I just updated zStart from 1.3.005 to 1.3.007, and it sent fine, but when i went into the zStart app and exited back out, my calc crashed and now wont turn on unless I hold down VARS. Help?

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #663 on: February 27, 2012, 03:26:37 pm »
I suppose 1.3.007 only work on 83+, so if you have a 84+ use 1.3.006. ;)
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #664 on: February 27, 2012, 03:36:00 pm »
Oh. That may be it. Well, how would i switch to 1.3.006 if i cant:
1. Run any app
2. Go through the program list
3. Look in memory mgmt menu
4. Use TiLP


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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #665 on: February 27, 2012, 04:32:03 pm »
Any ideas?
Remove a battery and re-insert it while holding DEL. The calc will ask an OS to be installed and zStart would probably be uninstalled (at least the run on RAM Clear option).

Wait a bit before doing this in case people give you less radical solutions ;)
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #666 on: February 27, 2012, 04:38:37 pm »
Any ideas?
Remove a battery and re-insert it while holding DEL. The calc will ask an OS to be installed and zStart would probably be uninstalled (at least the run on RAM Clear option).

Wait a bit before doing this in case people give you less radical solutions ;)

There is nothing radical about this in the slightest way. It does literally nothing besides clear ram. And no, it wouldn't affect zStart at all.


As for C0deH4cker, somehow manage to turn your calculator on, (VARS while rebooting should do it). Then simply delete the zStart appvar and clear ram again. I'm not sure what's going on, but that fixes all problems.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #667 on: February 27, 2012, 04:42:20 pm »
And no, it wouldn't affect zStart at all.
Re-installing the OS doesn't kill the "run on RAM Clear" option ? O.O

Then simply delete the zStart appvar and clear ram again. I'm not sure what's going on, but that fixes all problems.
Oh. That may be it. Well, how would i switch to 1.3.006 if i cant:
1. Run any app
2. Go through the program list
3. Look in memory mgmt menu
4. Use TiLP
The third one is a problem :P
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #668 on: February 27, 2012, 04:43:34 pm »
Wow this thread grew a lot compared to when I last checked it! O.O I don't think I'll bother going through the 45 pages lol, but I'm glad to see this is still progressing. Eventually I might give it a try but unfortunately now I can't, because I'm using Doors CS7 and I have heard about compatibility issues between both apps.

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #669 on: February 27, 2012, 04:44:34 pm »
Afaik those issues have been tackled. but idk ive also not been on since forever.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #670 on: February 27, 2012, 10:05:13 pm »
can you use asm from home screen?
Can you link to another calc?
You could send a zstart appvar to your calc, and have it overwrite the current one.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #671 on: February 28, 2012, 01:59:26 pm »
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #672 on: February 28, 2012, 02:53:20 pm »
Re-installing the OS doesn't kill the "run on RAM Clear" option ? O.O

Oh, you meant reinstall the OS. Yes, that will get rid of zStart. However, just pulling up that screen won't do much of anything.

Wow this thread grew a lot compared to when I last checked it! O.O I don't think I'll bother going through the 45 pages lol, but I'm glad to see this is still progressing. Eventually I might give it a try but unfortunately now I can't, because I'm using Doors CS7 and I have heard about compatibility issues between both apps.

DCS compatibility is as good as I can get it from my side. The only thing missing is properly chaining hooks. Kerm says he can't really fix that because he ran out of space.

can you use asm from home screen?
Can you link to another calc?
You could send a zstart appvar to your calc, and have it overwrite the current one.

Asm from homescreen - yes
Linking - zStart won't affect it for the better or worse
and yes the appvars are transferable
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #673 on: February 28, 2012, 02:59:50 pm »
Lol, in fact, I believe Happybobjr was talking to C0deH4cker to see what could fix his problem :P
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #674 on: February 28, 2012, 05:43:13 pm »
Thanks Hayleia, I was ;)
"Then simply delete the zStart appvar and clear ram again. I'm not sure what's going on, but that fixes all problems."


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