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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #720 on: March 30, 2012, 02:21:48 pm »
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Bug reports:
On+Del from program editor says "Err:Undefined"
Sometimes compiling from On+# has the program name displayed at compile-time messed up (finished with junk tokens), happens about half the time

Both dealing with archived source, btw

I've noticed that too, it should be covered in the next update.

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More random bugs, nothing really crippling tho.
Program editor: Trying to do [On+^] / [On+enter] in 2nd>Rcl pop-up thing says "Not enough memory".  Or is it supposed to say that?
Program editor: this one's actually a problem: 2nd+Rcl erases undo thing, so [On+^] restores nothing
1. Those shortcuts shouldn't work there
2. I assume I'm overwriting the extra ram page, I can probably fix that.

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I've noticed this bug as well. But this is the fault of Omnicalc's quick apps feature, not zStart. And since Omnicalc is a dead project and won't be updated, I don't think it can/will be fixed.

Correct on all accounts

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Another request:
Could you write an updated readme, please?
I don't really feel like trawling through 48 pages to find every single function(even only the key shortcuts would be nice)

Will do



Also, I actually do read these as people post them, I didn't just open the thread today ;D
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #721 on: April 24, 2012, 11:50:22 pm »
Catalog Help breaks the font hook.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #722 on: April 25, 2012, 07:50:41 am »
Catalog Help breaks the font hook.
Same here, forgot to report that bug. I used 2.43.

And I got some suggestions to make it even more awesome!
1st make it call automatically when exiting a app so that the hooks are resotred
2nd make a option that runs a program instead of APD
3rd make that you can tell the inactivity time till APD
4th make that you can optional insert the DCS hooks instead of the Omnicalc hooks.

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #723 on: April 25, 2012, 08:08:16 am »
why runniung a program instead apd? O.o
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #724 on: April 25, 2012, 08:09:08 am »
To make screen-savers :P

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #725 on: April 25, 2012, 08:15:26 am »
aha, but then you need to be able to set a timeout for turning off.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #726 on: April 25, 2012, 09:34:56 am »
Another suggestion: implement a lowercase-enabling hook so that you don't have to enable it every RAM clear. (or is this already implemented?)

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #727 on: April 25, 2012, 10:16:30 am »
Another suggestion: implement a lowercase-enabling hook so that you don't have to enable it every RAM clear. (or is this already implemented?)
You can set a prog that enables lowercase to run on RAM Clears.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #728 on: April 25, 2012, 11:09:07 am »
Or you could enable omnicalcs lowercase hooks and include omnicalc,.

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #729 on: April 26, 2012, 07:36:22 pm »
Catalog Help breaks the font hook.
Same here, forgot to report that bug. I used 2.43.

Yeah, it always has, I had to do a hack to make it work actually. For some reason though, lately the hack hasn't worked every single time.

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And I got some suggestions to make it even more awesome!
1st make it call automatically when exiting a app so that the hooks are restored

I believe this is possible, but I'm not sure how well it would work. Also, if the app killed hooks, what's to say it didn't kill the hook that runs this? ;D

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2nd make a option that runs a program instead of APD

That's actually relatively easy with OFFSCRPT, though... I'm not sure that this feature is important enough to add lol

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3rd make that you can tell the inactivity time till APD

Woudn't this reset the apd timer?

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4th make that you can optional insert the DCS hooks instead of the Omnicalc hooks.

I wish, I've asked kerm for over a year for this. The problem is that DCS, unlike Omnicalc, is constantly changing. For Omnicalc, I can simply make calls to certain spots in the app to perform specific features. For DCS on the other hand, it changes code location from one version to the next making this impossible. (The problem is that he won't give me an entry point like Quigibo did)

Another suggestion: implement a lowercase-enabling hook so that you don't have to enable it every RAM clear. (or is this already implemented?)

I think this would be really easy, the only problem is that I have the wrong hook to do this. My keyhook only fires when the calculator receives a key code, this means that 2nd and Alpha don't register. So, if an app or the OS disables lower case, it won't work, but I'm not actually sure how often this happens. So I probably should make this an option.

But yes, Omnicalc and Axe both enable it, so if you have one of those two you'll be good.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #730 on: April 27, 2012, 08:04:23 pm »
The OS never disables lowercase, and I've never seen an app do so.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #731 on: April 28, 2012, 02:39:03 am »

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And I got some suggestions to make it even more awesome!
1st make it call automatically when exiting a app so that the hooks are restored

I believe this is possible, but I'm not sure how well it would work. Also, if the app killed hooks, what's to say it didn't kill the hook that runs this? ;D

Maybe another OS mods that is called directly before displaying the home screen?

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #732 on: April 28, 2012, 03:08:48 am »
The OS never disables lowercase, and I've never seen an app do so.
NoteFolio disables lowercase when exiting. I don't think other apps do it.

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #733 on: April 28, 2012, 10:08:28 am »
Are you still planning to insert grammer hooks?

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #734 on: April 28, 2012, 07:35:58 pm »
Are you still planning to insert grammer hooks?

The next time I work on this (whenever that is), I'm going to add a parser hook chain option. This will move the infamous ChemMass part of this app into a second program which will free up boatloads of space. Using this parser hook chain, you should be able to use grammer.


Also, with this new space, I'm going to add a help "plugin." What this will do is you have zHelp.8xp on your calculator and whenever you press + on an option in zStart, it will tell you what it does and how it works.

The OS never disables lowercase, and I've never seen an app do so.
NoteFolio disables lowercase when exiting. I don't think other apps do it.

With this in mind, I can enable it when zStart quits and whenever a key is pressed. The only time you'll get into an awkward situation is when you quit NoteFolio and immediately try to use lowercase, though, I don't see this being a common problem.
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