Author Topic: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears (Read 334598 times)

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #390 on:** September 13, 2011, 03:50:17 pm »

Quote from: alberthrocks on September 12, 2011, 10:21:04 pm

virtual desktops! (Or multiple desktops!)

The main problem I have with that is that the homescreen doesn't really even remember that much. For instance, an AP chem test half way though the year will easily take the equivalent of 4 homescreen buffers. So I think to do this, I would have to increase the OS's command history.

And of course, this would create a whole new area of the extra memory that people can't touch, and that would be no fun

Quote from: Camdenmil on September 12, 2011, 10:48:30 pm

Is it possible to make a shortcut to compile with axe inside the program editor. When I'm done making changes, it'd be nice if I could compile from the editor instead of going to the program's name in the editor again.

I didn't do that because the program editor is not a friendly place. Yes, I could close the currently editing program and compile it, but reopening the program seamlessly would not be easy at all.

A very effective alternative would be: Set a compile shortcut for that program (ON + nuimber in edit menu). Then, whenever you quit the program, just press that shortcut on the homescreen. Of course this isn't quite as nice for single use programs, but, it's as nice as I can make it without some serious hacking.

Quote from: FinaleTI on September 13, 2011, 03:36:11 pm

I made an interesting font. It's based off one of my favorite fonts, which just happens to be my new coding font: Cloister Black.

How on earth do you code with that?

But I am glad to see a custom font.

ztrumpet · « **Reply #391 on:** September 13, 2011, 05:55:45 pm »

I had another weird bug today:
I assigned a Basic program to a shortcut key. I then ran it. This is what happened:

As you can tell, it showed quotes around every output (and maybe display) when ran from a shortcut. Running it from the homescreen didn't cause this affect. What's going on?

Edit: The program in question is this one, though I suspect it happens with all Basic programs: http://ourl.ca/4276/79683

Freyaday · « **Reply #392 on:** September 14, 2011, 12:14:35 am »

nice. I should upload some more of my fonts.

Hayleia · « **Reply #393 on:** September 17, 2011, 10:04:36 am »

[Feature Wishlist]
-Allow Symbolic
-Allow Graph³
-Make the ability to run GUIs (read spoiler for more informations about what I think about)

Spoiler For the spoiler:

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #394 on:** September 17, 2011, 01:01:07 pm »

Quote from: Hayleia on September 17, 2011, 10:04:36 am

[Feature Wishlist]
-Allow Symbolic
-Allow Graph³
-Make the ability to run GUIs (read spoiler for more informations about what I think about)

Official support for graph3 and Symbolic would be pretty tough because I'd have a mess with the hook chaining. However, what you want to do isn't hard.

You would make a program like this.

Code: [Select]


	ld	hl, symbolicName
	rst	20h
	bcall(_findApp)
	jr	c, noSymbolic

	ld	hl, $43B7
	bcall(_enableRawKeyHook)
	ld	hl, $43E1
	bcall(_enableTokenHook)		;straight from symbolic
	ld	hl, $47D0
	bcall(_enableParserHook)
		
noSymbolic:			
	ld	hl, graph3Name
	rst	20h
	bcall(_findApp)
	jr	c, noGraph3

	ld	hl, $4083
	bcall(_enableYEquHook)		;straight from graph3
	ld	hl, $4087
	bcall(_enableWindowHook)
	ld	hl, $408B
	bcall(_enableGraphHook)
	ld	hl, $408F
	bcall(_enableAppChangeHook)

noGraph3:
	ret

symbolicName:
	.db	appObj, "Symbolic "	;the apps probably have spaces
graph3Name:				;  after their names
	.db	appObj, "Graph3   "

And then make it "Run on zStart" with ON + 0. I attached an assembled version.

Quote

-Make the ability to run GUIs (read spoiler for more informations about what I think about)

I think you mean APIs, (application programming interface) and yes I've thought about it. It wouldn't be hard at all, but it would have to be after I go two pages due to the space it would take.

Hayleia · « **Reply #395 on:** September 17, 2011, 02:07:44 pm »

Quote from: thepenguin77 on September 17, 2011, 01:01:07 pm

You would make a program like this.
Code: [Select]
/cut
And then make it "Run on zStart" with ON + 0. I attached an assembled version.

This will install the hooks of the apps when I quit zStart, right ? And this will not interfere with zStart's hooks (because installing Symbolic kills zStart's hooks: I can't run archived progs) ?

Quote from: thepenguin77 on September 17, 2011, 01:01:07 pm

Quote
-Make the ability to run GUIs (read spoiler for more informations about what I think about)

I think you mean APIs, (application programming interface) and yes I've thought about it. It wouldn't be hard at all, but it would have to be after I go two pages due to the space it would take.

Er.. Maybe it is called API, I don't know. Maybe UCI, too

I saw too much names X(
Anyway, can't wait to see it done

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #396 on:** September 17, 2011, 02:10:41 pm »

Quote from: Hayleia on September 17, 2011, 02:07:44 pm

Quote from: thepenguin77 on September 17, 2011, 01:01:07 pm
You would make a program like this.
Code: [Select]
/cut
And then make it "Run on zStart" with ON + 0. I attached an assembled version.

This will install the hooks of the apps when I quit zStart, right ? And this will not interfere with zStart's hooks (because installing Symbolic kills zStart's hooks: I can't run archived progs) ?

Yeah, I forgot about that, Symbolic has a parser hook which is the basis of how it works, as of now, the best thing I can say without getting super complicated would be to run programs with ON + Enter. Sorry about that.

ztrumpet · « **Reply #397 on:** September 18, 2011, 06:52:37 pm »

When do you think you'll have a chance to look at the Basic issues?

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #398 on:** September 18, 2011, 06:56:55 pm »

Well, I must answer with eventually. I work on stuff in phases, so when this pops back up, you'll see a ton of updates.

Freyaday · « **Reply #399 on:** September 20, 2011, 12:19:03 am »

I have a suggestion.
On the font view screen (the one that appears when you press ALPHA whilst editing a char) you currently clear and then refill the screen whenever the cursor is moved. I came up with a way to fix that.
Instead of clearing the screen every time, all you have to do it print the char and the char to its left in black-on-white, then move the cursor, then do whatever!
I even wrote an Axe program that'll do it!
Lemme know if you'd like it.

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #400 on:** September 20, 2011, 03:32:12 pm »

Quote from: Freyaday on September 20, 2011, 12:19:03 am

I have a suggestion.
On the font view screen (the one that appears when you press ALPHA whilst editing a char) you currently clear and then refill the screen whenever the cursor is moved. I came up with a way to fix that.
Instead of clearing the screen every time, all you have to do it print the char and the char to its left in black-on-white, then move the cursor, then do whatever!
I even wrote an Axe program that'll do it!
Lemme know if you'd like it.

I know that

. Maybe you should hear the background behind the font editor. When I first made it, I figured people would just press +/- and *// to navigate. Then, I got the awesome idea to display all the characters and let you pick one. Of course, since this was just a menu, I didn't spend that much time on it. It did it's purpose, and I was happy with it. When I made it, I didn't think many people would use it.

Now however, I realized that everyone uses the chart every time and no one uses the controls I added. (look at those absolutes) This also explains why the editor starts out editing, and not viewing the list.

Now you know.

Freyaday · « **Reply #401 on:** September 20, 2011, 06:49:25 pm »

Quote from: thepenguin77 on September 20, 2011, 03:32:12 pm

Quote from: Freyaday on September 20, 2011, 12:19:03 am
I have a suggestion.
On the font view screen (the one that appears when you press ALPHA whilst editing a char) you currently clear and then refill the screen whenever the cursor is moved. I came up with a way to fix that.
Instead of clearing the screen every time, all you have to do it print the char and the char to its left in black-on-white, then move the cursor, then do whatever!
I even wrote an Axe program that'll do it!
Lemme know if you'd like it.

I know that . Maybe you should hear the background behind the font editor. When I first made it, I figured people would just press +/- and *// to navigate. Then, I got the awesome idea to display all the characters and let you pick one. Of course, since this was just a menu, I didn't spend that much time on it. It did it's purpose, and I was happy with it. When I made it, I didn't think many people would use it.

Now however, I realized that everyone uses the chart every time and no one uses the controls I added. (look at those absolutes) This also explains why the editor starts out editing, and not viewing the list.

Now you know.

Ah ok. Can you still implement it though? The flicker drives me nuts. It messes with my head, man!

mrmprog · « **Reply #402 on:** September 23, 2011, 10:16:02 pm »

Wow... I tried zstart for the first time today, and I have to say, this is awesome. Everything works smoothly, and I haven't had any crashes. I especially love the fonts/omnicalc stuff. This is very well made, good job.

alberthrocks · « **Reply #403 on:** September 23, 2011, 10:21:48 pm »

Quote from: thepenguin77 on September 17, 2011, 02:10:41 pm

Quote from: Hayleia on September 17, 2011, 02:07:44 pm
Quote from: thepenguin77 on September 17, 2011, 01:01:07 pm
You would make a program like this.
Code: [Select]
/cut
And then make it "Run on zStart" with ON + 0. I attached an assembled version.

This will install the hooks of the apps when I quit zStart, right ? And this will not interfere with zStart's hooks (because installing Symbolic kills zStart's hooks: I can't run archived progs) ?

Yeah, I forgot about that, Symbolic has a parser hook which is the basis of how it works, as of now, the best thing I can say without getting super complicated would be to run programs with ON + Enter. Sorry about that.

I should mention that Symbolic is usually automatically installed with Omnicalc. I think Symbolic registers itself within Omnicalc. When I clear RAM, Symbolic is already installed. The main concern is with hook hijacking (Symbolic and parser hooks)...

Freyaday · « **Reply #404 on:** September 23, 2011, 10:36:52 pm »

Oh! UnArchive prgm and Archive prgm don't work. it just tries to run the program.

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