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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #420 on: October 02, 2011, 05:54:54 pm »
Uh, I actually use the safe ram clears to fix memory leaks.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #421 on: October 02, 2011, 05:57:35 pm »
I used safe RAM clears too! Like when a program messed something up, and I didn't want to lose data while resetting the RAM.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #422 on: October 02, 2011, 05:59:35 pm »
Meh, sorry about that.

For an alternative, just press ON+VARS, then clear ram. It won't unarchive your stuff, but still works. (It was either that or having BASIC not work so... ;D)

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #423 on: October 02, 2011, 06:01:11 pm »
Oooh, how about you write a mini safe RAM clear program that I and Freyaday can hook to [ON]+[num]? :D
I think that would be the best solution! ;)

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #424 on: October 02, 2011, 06:06:43 pm »
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #425 on: October 02, 2011, 06:09:04 pm »
Yes, new version!  I was wondering when the few bugs would be fixed.  Thank you! ;D

And isn't zstart supposed to let you jump to the source of the problem when Axe has an error? If so, it's not working for me.
Nope, this is an Axe hook.  Press Prgm after getting an error while compiling straight from the Axe app.  I believe (but am not 100% sure) that the source has to be in RAM as well.

Oooh, how about you write a mini safe RAM clear program that I and Freyaday can hook to [ON]+[num]? :D
I think that would be the best solution! ;)
I think this is an awesome idea. :D

By the way, thepenguin, did you ever release the copy/paste program as an external program so people (me!) can use it on their 83+/83+SEs?  I went looking for it the other day but I couldn't find it and couldn't remember if you released it as a stand alone program or not.

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #426 on: October 02, 2011, 06:43:13 pm »
Oooh, how about you write a mini safe RAM clear program that I and Freyaday can hook to [ON]+[num]? :D
I think that would be the best solution! ;)

Send both of these to the archive and set safeclrr to run on ram clears. Then just run safeclrs to perform the whole operation. I copied the code right from zStart so it should work fine.

It doesn't backup appVars on purpose I believe. If it did, you'd run into weird problems.

By the way, thepenguin, did you ever release the copy/paste program as an external program so people (me!) can use it on their 83+/83+SEs?  I went looking for it the other day but I couldn't find it and couldn't remember if you released it as a stand alone program or not.

Actually, that won't work well at all. The copy/paste uses the extra ram page as scrap space, without that, you wouldn't be able to do much. Also, zStart will work on 83+SE's, the only thing that won't work is running on ram clears, which, honestly, I could do.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #427 on: October 02, 2011, 06:53:38 pm »
Also, zStart will work on 83+SE's, the only thing that won't work is running on ram clears, which, honestly, I could do.
I have an 83+SE and use it as my Basic coding calc.  I would love to put zStart on it.  Can it be done?  Please? ;D

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #428 on: October 02, 2011, 11:34:54 pm »
Basic's Menu( command is acting up.  It's giving me an Err: Lbl and once it filled my homecreen with the black dot character (I believe it is FFh).

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Nope. :(
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #429 on: October 03, 2011, 05:46:45 pm »
Don't know what causes it, but sometimes when I press on+vars, it clears ram. It puts the text that says "Archiving" at the top right and immediately turns off.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #430 on: October 03, 2011, 07:52:48 pm »
Basic's Menu( command is acting up.  It's giving me an Err: Lbl and once it filled my homecreen with the black dot character (I believe it is FFh).

Fixed - flag
Nope. :(
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Ok, now I fixed it. What I changed the first time didn't do a thing. I must have messed up while testing it. The problem was since zStart was running the program, the system "App" was kExtApps, which is not what is supposed to be running. In reality, kQuit, which is the homescreen, is supposed to be running. End result, everything is back to normal.

Don't know what causes it, but sometimes when I press on+vars, it clears ram. It puts the text that says "Archiving" at the top right and immediately turns off.

That sounds terrible. The code looks pretty sound, so I turned off interrupts. It does some weird memory stuff so that was probably the cause.

Also, zStart will work on 83+SE's, the only thing that won't work is running on ram clears, which, honestly, I could do.
I have an 83+SE and use it as my Basic coding calc.  I would love to put zStart on it.  Can it be done?  Please? ;D



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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #432 on: October 03, 2011, 11:20:34 pm »
Basic's Menu( command is acting up.  It's giving me an Err: Lbl and once it filled my homecreen with the black dot character (I believe it is FFh).

Fixed - flag
Nope. :(
84+SE running 2.43.  I'll talk to you more about it tomorrow if you like. :)

Ok, now I fixed it. What I changed the first time didn't do a thing. I must have messed up while testing it. The problem was since zStart was running the program, the system "App" was kExtApps, which is not what is supposed to be running. In reality, kQuit, which is the homescreen, is supposed to be running. End result, everything is back to normal.
It works!  Thanks! :D

I'll let you know when I put it on my 83+SE. :)

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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #433 on: October 05, 2011, 12:08:27 am »
I just came up with an idea:
An Undo button.
So, so many times I've accidentally pressed the wrong keys and deleted a line I didn't mean to.
Can this be done, plz?
Or, at the very least, can there be a hook installed that logs the contents of a line when an action is performed that overwrites it, like pressing the CLEAR key or 2nd RECALL
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #434 on: October 08, 2011, 11:33:42 am »
Let's say I want to make a password program with zstart. Am I correct to assume that the "run on start" thing is just like the start up app?


I just came up with an idea:
An Undo button.
So, so many times I've accidentally pressed the wrong keys and deleted a line I didn't mean to.
Can this be done, plz?
Or, at the very least, can there be a hook installed that logs the contents of a line when an action is performed that overwrites it, like pressing the CLEAR key or 2nd RECALL
That would be super handy! I have cleared "pages" of sprite data with on keypress :(