Author Topic: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears (Read 340587 times)

Darl181 · « **Reply #555 on:** November 19, 2011, 08:59:40 pm »

I'm not sure if this is related to zStart either, but whenever the calc garbageCollects the calc starts screwing up...I've gotten "ERR:?" twice now and it likes to deposit junk tokens on the homescreen.

Hayleia · « **Reply #556 on:** November 20, 2011, 02:03:10 pm »

(thepenguin will have a lot of posts to check

)
Another one

Feature request:

-Instead of having one app/program set on start-up, I'd like to be able to set several ones, in a particular order. That would also mean that you would have to change the way of setting them :-/

-Instead of being able to only set 10 programs/apps with ON+[one digit number], I think that would be great if we could have several digits available, digits that we input while the ON key is pressed

After reading my post, it sounds to me that I only asked impossible things

Sorunome · « **Reply #557 on:** November 20, 2011, 02:21:36 pm »

I just got another idea: maybe make it somehow possible to insert any hook and it is restored when ram is cleared. I don't know if that is possible..........

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #558 on:** November 20, 2011, 02:38:42 pm »

Quote from: Hayleia on November 19, 2011, 01:54:49 am

Another problem that is not a bug: in a basic program with Input, we can do 2nd Quit and the temporary program stays in RAM.

That sounds fixable.

Quote from: Sorunome on November 19, 2011, 12:35:07 pm

Quote from: Sorunome on November 11, 2011, 02:26:08 pm
But what would be cool would be damn! I forgot my feature request! :O
Just remembered! It's about the editing when archieved.
It works fine and all if you move the curser to the program and then hit enter, but if I press e.g. 8 it gives me error: archieved.

I know about that, but that is a mega pain to do. It also has the potential to make you end up opening the wrong program

Quote from: Darl181 on November 19, 2011, 08:59:40 pm

I'm not sure if this is related to zStart either, but whenever the calc garbageCollects the calc starts screwing up...I've gotten "ERR:?" twice now and it likes to deposit junk tokens on the homescreen.

That's not related to zStart, but try this. I wouldn't doubt that you are very close to having a non-booting calculator.

Quote from: Hayleia on November 20, 2011, 02:03:10 pm

(thepenguin will have a lot of posts to check )
Another one

Feature request:

-Instead of having one app/program set on start-up, I'd like to be able to set several ones, in a particular order. That would also mean that you would have to change the way of setting them :-/

I've thought about that, it wouldn't be very difficult to do that by setting a program in that position that runs all the other programs. I might make one of those sometime.

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-Instead of being able to only set 10 programs/apps with ON+[one digit number], I think that would be great if we could have several digits available, digits that we input while the ON key is pressed

Ok, but this one wouldn't be easy. It would require major rewrites of anything that involves the appvar, which is like 50% of the app. Then, I would have to completely change how the ON hooks work. I can tell you with certainty that this will not happen. But, do you actually use all 9 shortcuts?

Quote from: Sorunome on November 20, 2011, 02:21:36 pm

I just got another idea: maybe make it somehow possible to insert any hook and it is restored when ram is cleared. I don't know if that is possible..........

In principle that's not hard, it's just the whole UI that would go along with it would be messy. Not to mention it takes up variable space in the appvar.

Sorunome · « **Reply #559 on:** November 20, 2011, 02:42:45 pm »

Quote from: thepenguin77 on November 20, 2011, 02:38:42 pm

Quote from: Sorunome on November 20, 2011, 02:21:36 pm
I just got another idea: maybe make it somehow possible to insert any hook and it is restored when ram is cleared. I don't know if that is possible..........
Maybe somehow like a mix between the omnicalc options menu and the listing of the apps
In principle that's not hard, it's just the whole UI that would go along with it would be messy. Not to mention it takes up variable space in the appvar.

Hayleia · « **Reply #560 on:** November 20, 2011, 02:50:57 pm »

Quote from: thepenguin77 on November 20, 2011, 02:38:42 pm

Quote from: Hayleia on November 20, 2011, 02:03:10 pm
(thepenguin will have a lot of posts to check )
Another one

Feature request:

-Instead of having one app/program set on start-up, I'd like to be able to set several ones, in a particular order. That would also mean that you would have to change the way of setting them :-/

I've thought about that, it wouldn't be very difficult to do that by setting a program in that position that runs all the other programs. I might make one of those sometime.

And it could launch apps too ? O.o That would be awesome

Quote from: thepenguin77 on November 20, 2011, 02:38:42 pm

Quote from: Hayleia on November 20, 2011, 02:03:10 pm
-Instead of being able to only set 10 programs/apps with ON+[one digit number], I think that would be great if we could have several digits available, digits that we input while the ON key is pressed

Ok, but this one wouldn't be easy. It would require major rewrites of anything that involves the appvar, which is like 50% of the app. Then, I would have to completely change how the ON hooks work. I can tell you with certainty that this will not happen. But, do you actually use all 9 shortcuts?

Yes I use all of them

Yeah, I knew it would be hard, but don't worry, some of the shortcuts I use are not important, and I can redefine them for something more important.

Darl181 · « **Reply #561 on:** November 20, 2011, 03:03:10 pm »

Quote from: thepenguin77 on November 20, 2011, 02:38:42 pm

Quote from: Darl181 on November 19, 2011, 08:59:40 pm
I'm not sure if this is related to zStart either, but whenever the calc garbageCollects the calc starts screwing up...I've gotten "ERR:?" twice now and it likes to deposit junk tokens on the homescreen.
That's not related to zStart, but try this. I wouldn't doubt that you are very close to having a non-booting calculator.

Yeah, I use that fairly often

[offtopic]So for the booting thing, would it be possible to fix it with Flashy or something?[/offtopic]

Xeda112358 · « **Reply #562 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:23:38 pm »

Quote from: Hayleia on November 20, 2011, 02:50:57 pm

And it could launch apps too ? O.o That would be awesome

Hmm, that seems useful and doable

Would it just require finding the app page and jumping to 4080h?

Yeong · « **Reply #563 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:55:14 pm »

I think zstart already have that feature.

DrDnar · « **Reply #564 on:** November 20, 2011, 07:14:15 pm »

Quote from: Xeda112358 on November 20, 2011, 06:23:38 pm

Quote from: Hayleia on November 20, 2011, 02:50:57 pm
And it could launch apps too ? O.o That would be awesome
Hmm, that seems useful and doable Would it just require finding the app page and jumping to 4080h?

No. You have to parse the app's header to figure out where its executable code begins; the OS starts an app right after the last byte in the header. There is no need to pad the header to 80h bytes. Fortunately, the OS provides a BCALL that does all of this for you, ExecuteApp. This will probably leak RAM if called from within a RAM program unless you deallocate yourself first.

Incidentally, you can also put whatever you want in the datestamp signature field. Nothing ever checks that signature.

DrDnar · « **Reply #565 on:** November 21, 2011, 04:26:31 am »

Double post for an update: the following assembly program will execute the application named in Ans. This program never returns. Note that applications whose name is less than 8 characters are normally padded with spaces at the end.

This should go without saying, but don't run this from within a shell. (zStart doesn't count as a shell in this case.) It completely subverts the normal way that assembly programs are supposed to quit. Any assembly program can copy itself to scratch RAM and do ld hl, 9D95h \ ld de, (asm_prgm_size) \ b_call(_DelMem) \ b_call(_JForceCmdNoChar). This is what the below program does, except that instead of executing the internal homescreen app, it runs the app you've chosen. This is a horrible way to quit if you're running from within a shell.

Edit: Possible bug fixed due to incorrectly correct .org.

Source:

Code: [Select]

; ExecApp
; This assembly program transfers control to the application named in Ans.  This
; program never returns, unless the application does not exist, or you fail to
; specify a valid name.
; This can probably be improved quite a bit.  Do feel free to steal this source
; and use it in your own, more complete multi-program runner.

.nolist
#include "ti83plus.inc"
;_ExecuteApp	.equ	4C51h
.list

curStrPos	.equ	appBackUpScreen
curBufPos	.equ	curStrPos+2
strBuffer	.equ	curBufPos+2

	.org	8000h
	.db	t2ByteTok, tAsmCmp
	
	 ; For debugging in an emulator . . . can't do any harm.
	set	LwrCaseActive, (iy+AppLwrCaseFlag)
	
	; Copy self to a temporary area
	ld	hl, 9D95h
	ld	de, 8002h
	ld	bc, 256
	ldir
	jp	actuallyDoChecking
actuallyDoChecking:
	; Check the type of Ans
	b_call(_RclAns)
	ld	a, (hl)
	cp	StrngObj
	ret	nz
	; Convert Ans into a real string.
	ex	de, hl
	ld	a, (hl)
	inc	hl
	ld	(iy+asm_flag1), a ; Keeps track of how many bytes are left
	ld	a, (hl)
	inc	hl
	ld	(curStrPos), hl
	or	a
	ret	nz ; Oops, this string is obviously way too big.
	ld	hl, strBuffer
	ld	(hl), AppObj
	inc	hl
	ld	(curBufPos), hl
tokenStringToRealStringLoop:
	ld	hl, (curStrPos)
	b_call(_Get_Tok_Strng)
	ld	de, (curBufPos)
	ld	hl, OP3 ; The documentation lies.
	ldir
	ld	(curBufPos), de
	ld	hl, (curStrPos)
	ld	a, (hl)
	inc	hl
	b_call(_IsA2ByteTok)
	jr	nz, +_
	inc	hl
	dec	(iy+asm_flag1)
_:	ld	(curStrPos), hl
	dec	(iy+asm_flag1)
	jr	nz, tokenStringToRealStringLoop
	ld	(hl), 0
	; Done!  Make sure app exists.
	ld	hl, strBuffer
	rst	20h;rMOV9TOOP1
	b_call(_FindApp)
	ret	c
	; Deallocate self
	ld	hl, 9D95h
	ld	de, (asm_prgm_size)
	b_call(_DelMem)
	; Aaaand, run the application.
	ld	hl, strBuffer+1
	ld	de, progToEdit
	ld	bc, 8
	ldir
	b_call(_ExecuteApp)
.end
.end

ztrumpet · « **Reply #566 on:** November 21, 2011, 06:05:51 pm »

I just encountered a strange bug:
I was toggling back and forth between Radian and Degree modes, and after hitting [On] + [Sin] about three times, the calc froze, and RAM Cleared. I have no idea how this happened, though based on the timing I think interrupts were to blame.
I have a TI 84+SE running 2.43 with Axe, Omnicalc, and Zstart.

Hayleia · « **Reply #567 on:** November 25, 2011, 01:28:22 pm »

I have another bug (is that a bug ? because I like this one

):
When the calc hits a bug, it turns off, then Ram Clears when turning on.
BUT, if when turning on I keep [Clear] pressed, strange things happen:
-The prog that should run on Ram clears does not launch
-The contrast is not set off
-In fact, everything is like zStart is not installed (no hooks working)
-There is no program in the program Menu
-Launching an app causes crash, and to Ram Clear, and to get everything back to normal

(except if I keep [Clear] pressed again)

Stefan Bauwens · « **Reply #568 on:** November 25, 2011, 02:01:11 pm »

Quote from: Hayleia on November 25, 2011, 01:28:22 pm

I have another bug (is that a bug ? because I like this one ):
When the calc hits a bug, it turns off, then Ram Clears when turning on.
BUT, if when turning on I keep [Clear] pressed, strange things happen:
-The prog that should run on Ram clears does not launch
-The contrast is not set off
-In fact, everything is like zStart is not installed (no hooks working)
-There is no program in the program Menu
-Launching an app causes crash, and to Ram Clear, and to get everything back to normal (except if I keep [Clear] pressed again)

I've read a part of the readme and it says like everywhere a million times(

) that while rebooting and pressing [Clear] zStart won't be installed. So no, it isn't a bug.

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #569 on:** November 25, 2011, 02:16:33 pm »

*cough*

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