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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #705 on: March 09, 2012, 04:51:35 pm »
Quote from: kindermoumoute on March 09, 2012, 12:17:11 pm
Quote from: Hayleia on March 09, 2012, 11:28:32 am
Also, will zStart support 5 character labels in the label menu ?
Same request, will this feature added soon ? :s

Probably not. To be honest, that label menu is one of the things in the app that takes up the most space, and going to 5 characters would actually require quite a change. It might be possible, I'm not positive, but 5 letter sorting will definitely never happen (probably 200 byte addition).
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #706 on: March 10, 2012, 11:21:54 pm »
Quote from: thepenguin77 on March 09, 2012, 04:51:35 pm
Quote from: kindermoumoute on March 09, 2012, 12:17:11 pm
Quote from: Hayleia on March 09, 2012, 11:28:32 am
Also, will zStart support 5 character labels in the label menu ?
Same request, will this feature added soon ? :s

Probably not. To be honest, that label menu is one of the things in the app that takes up the most space, and going to 5 characters would actually require quite a change. It might be possible, I'm not positive, but 5 letter sorting will definitely never happen (probably 200 byte addition).
Does anyone actually use the Sort for labels?  I've never used it, and although I think it's really cool, I personally find it unnecessary.

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I can't read 8 lvl grayscales pics on my 83+. :'(
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Quote from: kindermoumoute on March 06, 2012, 06:40:30 am
I can't read 8 lvl grayscales pics on my 83+. :'(
O.O I can on mine (with 1.3.007 at least).

Do you actually want that? I can do it. It's just that it does corrupt your ram.
How much RAM would it take?  Couldn't you have it check to see if there's that much RAM free and only run the picture if it's safe to do so?
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #707 on: March 11, 2012, 01:31:05 am »
Quote from: ztrumpet on March 10, 2012, 11:21:54 pm
Quote from: thepenguin77 on March 09, 2012, 04:51:35 pm
Quote from: kindermoumoute on March 09, 2012, 12:17:11 pm
Quote from: Hayleia on March 09, 2012, 11:28:32 am
Also, will zStart support 5 character labels in the label menu ?
Same request, will this feature added soon ? :s

Probably not. To be honest, that label menu is one of the things in the app that takes up the most space, and going to 5 characters would actually require quite a change. It might be possible, I'm not positive, but 5 letter sorting will definitely never happen (probably 200 byte addition).
Does anyone actually use the Sort for labels?  I've never used it, and although I think it's really cool, I personally find it unnecessary.
I do. It is really useful when you code in Axe and you want to skip all the data at the beginning or go to a specific routine in your code.

edit: I have 77 respect :P
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #708 on: March 11, 2012, 05:54:56 pm »
Same here. I use it all the time. :)
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #709 on: March 11, 2012, 05:59:50 pm »
But the question is, do you need the labels to be alphabetically sorted? Or will a list in order of appearance work fine?
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #710 on: March 11, 2012, 06:00:46 pm »
Quote from: Runer112 on March 11, 2012, 05:59:50 pm
But the question is, do you need the labels to be alphabetically sorted? Or will a list in order of appearance work fine?
Order of appearance is the best IMO.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #711 on: March 11, 2012, 06:03:16 pm »
Quote from: parser padwan on March 11, 2012, 06:00:46 pm
Quote from: Runer112 on March 11, 2012, 05:59:50 pm
But the question is, do you need the labels to be alphabetically sorted? Or will a list in order of appearance work fine?
Order of appearance is the best IMO.

I would be inclined to agree. I usually like to add my labels/subroutines in a logical order, and alphabetic sorting would probably make it harder for me to find label that I'm looking for.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2012, 06:03:48 pm by Runer112 »
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #712 on: March 11, 2012, 06:06:40 pm »
Same here.
my sorting is like this:

data here     with labels for easy editing
main loop     ^^
routines
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #713 on: March 11, 2012, 07:34:31 pm »
Quote from: Runer112 on March 11, 2012, 06:03:16 pm
Quote from: parser padwan on March 11, 2012, 06:00:46 pm
Quote from: Runer112 on March 11, 2012, 05:59:50 pm
But the question is, do you need the labels to be alphabetically sorted? Or will a list in order of appearance work fine?
Order of appearance is the best IMO.

I would be inclined to agree. I usually like to add my labels/subroutines in a logical order, and alphabetic sorting would probably make it harder for me to find label that I'm looking for.

They aren't currently sorted. Slightly confused lol


But the real question, should the auto-complete in the Lbl menu stay? It is quite large, but if some people swear by it, I'll keep it.

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I can't read 8 lvl grayscales pics on my 83+. :'(
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Quote from: kindermoumoute on March 06, 2012, 06:40:30 am
I can't read 8 lvl grayscales pics on my 83+. :'(
O.O I can on mine (with 1.3.007 at least).

Do you actually want that? I can do it. It's just that it does corrupt your ram.
How much RAM would it take?  Couldn't you have it check to see if there's that much RAM free and only run the picture if it's safe to do so?

Yeah, I can make that work. When I start adding 83+ specific stuff, I can do that. I'll just make an appvar.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #714 on: March 16, 2012, 06:16:59 pm »
Bug reports:
On+Del from program editor says "Err:Undefined"
Sometimes compiling from On+# has the program name displayed at compile-time messed up (finished with junk tokens), happens about half the time

Both dealing with archived source, btw
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #715 on: March 17, 2012, 03:26:08 pm »
i get the ERR:UNDEFINED too, but only when editing programs in RAM.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #716 on: March 25, 2012, 11:39:55 pm »
More random bugs, nothing really crippling tho.
Program editor: Trying to do [On+^] / [On+enter] in 2nd>Rcl pop-up thing says "Not enough memory".  Or is it supposed to say that? :P
Program editor: this one's actually a problem: 2nd+Rcl erases undo thing, so [On+^] restores nothing
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #717 on: March 30, 2012, 01:02:40 am »
Yet another bug report :P
-pressing "prgm" while in program editor should lead to a token menu (whatever it is called).
-pressing "prgm" while in homescreen should lead to the program list.
Now, in program editor, pressing apps then clear does basically nothing but makes that pressing "prgm" (while in program editor) leads to the program list instead of the token menu.

(see screenshot, everything happen in the program editor. You see that the first time I press "prgm", everything is normal but the second time is wrong).
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #718 on: March 30, 2012, 11:50:54 am »
Quote from: Hayleia on March 30, 2012, 01:02:40 am
Yet another bug report :P
-pressing "prgm" while in program editor should lead to a token menu (whatever it is called).
-pressing "prgm" while in homescreen should lead to the program list.
Now, in program editor, pressing apps then clear does basically nothing but makes that pressing "prgm" (while in program editor) leads to the program list instead of the token menu.

(see screenshot, everything happen in the program editor. You see that the first time I press "prgm", everything is normal but the second time is wrong).

I've noticed this bug as well. But this is the fault of Omnicalc's quick apps feature, not zStart. And since Omnicalc is a dead project and won't be updated, I don't think it can/will be fixed. :(
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #719 on: March 30, 2012, 12:13:14 pm »
Another request:
Could you write an updated readme, please?
I don't really feel like trawling through 48 pages to find every single function(even only the key shortcuts would be nice)
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