Author Topic: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears (Read 334383 times)

ClrDraw · « **Reply #990 on:** October 19, 2013, 01:02:37 pm »

zStart is so awesome. Except the new version always crashes my calculator when I do ON + MATH, and I don't have anything else installed that could be affecting it...

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #991 on:** October 21, 2013, 06:02:05 pm »

Quote from: ClrDraw on October 19, 2013, 01:02:37 pm

zStart is so awesome. Except the new version always crashes my calculator when I do ON + MATH, and I don't have anything else installed that could be affecting it...

Yeah, that's a glitch I haven't really found a way to fix. If you open Mathprint at least once, it won't crash anymore. (An easy way to do this would be to leave it defaulted to mathprint and then press ON + MATH on every boot)

Runer112 · « **Reply #992 on:** October 21, 2013, 06:52:42 pm »

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Quote from: Runer112 on September 21, 2013, 03:31:18 am

*snip*

Regarding the shortcut to enable MathPrint not working unless it has already been enabled once: ... can you do something sneaky to always let MathPrint load up on RAM clears, but after it has been enabled, immediately switch to Classic mode if that default is set?

Also, another thought popped into my mind. You know how a while ago I mentioned that Omnicalc's quick apps menu doesn't register a context change until after any executed app returns to the OS? That may be a hard Omnicalc issue to fix, but I realized there are other issues with Omnicalc that might be (perhaps more easily) fixable. For instance, enforcing that parentheses assistant, the entries menu, and RAM recovery are disabled when MathPrint mode is enabled, and returning them to their original settings when Classic mode is enabled. It also may or may not be feasible to kill the partial line clear functionality when MathPrint mode is enabled. (I got the impression that you try to keep your key hook fast by only having ON+___ shortcuts so you can abort if ON is not pressed, but this check would need to occur before that)

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #993 on:** October 22, 2013, 11:53:44 am »

Quote from: Runer112 on October 21, 2013, 06:52:42 pm

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Quote from: Runer112 on September 21, 2013, 03:31:18 am
*snip*

Regarding the shortcut to enable MathPrint not working unless it has already been enabled once: ... can you do something sneaky to always let MathPrint load up on RAM clears, but after it has been enabled, immediately switch to Classic mode if that default is set?

Also, another thought popped into my mind. You know how a while ago I mentioned that Omnicalc's quick apps menu doesn't register a context change until after any executed app returns to the OS? That may be a hard Omnicalc issue to fix, but I realized there are other issues with Omnicalc that might be (perhaps more easily) fixable. For instance, enforcing that parentheses assistant, the entries menu, and RAM recovery are disabled when MathPrint mode is enabled, and returning them to their original settings when Classic mode is enabled. It also may or may not be feasible to kill the partial line clear functionality when MathPrint mode is enabled. (I got the impression that you try to keep your key hook fast by only having ON+___ shortcuts so you can abort if ON is not pressed, but this check would need to occur before that)

Well, the next time I work on zStart, I'll probably fix it in the correct way, I'm sure I can figure it out eventually.

The onmicalc thing probably isn't all that hard. I should probably make a function that installs omnicalc differently based on the current mathprint setting and then just call that function when you switch mathprint.

Streetwalrus · « **Reply #994 on:** October 22, 2013, 12:03:42 pm »

Well, Omnicalc, as awesome as it is, needs to be updated anyway. I'm up for it but I can't promise anything.

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #995 on:** October 22, 2013, 12:05:44 pm »

Quote from: Streetwalker on October 22, 2013, 12:03:42 pm

Well, Omnicalc, as awesome as it is, needs to be updated anyway. I'm up for it but I can't promise anything.

DrDnar updated it, but the issue is that the new one doesn't work with zStart. zStart calls Omnicalc by address, so to fix it and remain compatibility you'd have to fix it OS patch style.

Streetwalrus · « **Reply #996 on:** October 22, 2013, 12:09:24 pm »

Really ? I'm interested in this. Do you have a link ?
Edit : NVM, found it on TI-Planet. It's just a compat fix for newer calcs, nothing really interesting for me.

Sorunome · « **Reply #997 on:** October 23, 2013, 07:51:18 am »

Quote from: Streetwalker on October 22, 2013, 12:09:24 pm

Really ? I'm interested in this. Do you have a link ?
Edit : NVM, found it on TI-Planet. It's just a compat fix for newer calcs, nothing really interesting for me.

whaaat, can you please link me? I found it on UTI before it got closed and the archives don't have file attachments anymore

Hayleia · « **Reply #998 on:** October 23, 2013, 10:18:04 am »

Quote from: Sorunome on October 23, 2013, 07:51:18 am

Quote from: Streetwalker on October 22, 2013, 12:09:24 pm
Really ? I'm interested in this. Do you have a link ?
Edit : NVM, found it on TI-Planet. It's just a compat fix for newer calcs, nothing really interesting for me.
whaaat, can you please link me? I found it on UTI before it got closed and the archives don't have file attachments anymore

Did you try going there yourself, noticing that you don't understand French but seeing the USA/UK flag that translates everything into English, then using the "Search" bar that looks in "Files" to look for "Omnicalc" and then picking the one saying "Dr'Dnar" ?

Sorunome · « **Reply #999 on:** October 23, 2013, 10:21:21 am »

Quote from: Hayleia on October 23, 2013, 10:18:04 am

Quote from: Sorunome on October 23, 2013, 07:51:18 am
Quote from: Streetwalker on October 22, 2013, 12:09:24 pm
Really ? I'm interested in this. Do you have a link ?
Edit : NVM, found it on TI-Planet. It's just a compat fix for newer calcs, nothing really interesting for me.
whaaat, can you please link me? I found it on UTI before it got closed and the archives don't have file attachments anymore
Did you try going there yourself, noticing that you don't understand French but seeing the USA/UK flag that translates everything into English, then using the "Search" bar that looks in "Files" to look for "Omnicalc" and then picking the one saying "Dr'Dnar" ?

good idea, thanks >.<

* Sorunome guesses he just sucks at using the web

Runer112 · « **Reply #1000 on:** November 14, 2013, 09:20:24 pm »

I'm just going to bug you about making an 84+CSE version of zStart, in case you haven't been bugged about it enough yet. It would be quite nice. If you wanted any assistance porting it or testing it, I would offer my help.

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #1001 on:** November 14, 2013, 11:13:17 pm »

Quote from: Runer112 on November 14, 2013, 09:20:24 pm

I'm just going to bug you about making an 84+CSE version of zStart, in case you haven't been bugged about it enough yet. It would be quite nice. If you wanted any assistance porting it or testing it, I would offer my help.

I'm probably never going to own a CSE, so someone besides me is going to have to do it. I'll answer any questions said person has along the way and even find the OS entry points, but I don't want to actually do the porting.

Runer112 · « **Reply #1002 on:** November 14, 2013, 11:25:20 pm »

Quote from: thepenguin77 on November 14, 2013, 11:13:17 pm

Quote from: Runer112 on November 14, 2013, 09:20:24 pm
I'm just going to bug you about making an 84+CSE version of zStart, in case you haven't been bugged about it enough yet. It would be quite nice. If you wanted any assistance porting it or testing it, I would offer my help.

I'm probably never going to own a CSE, so someone besides me is going to have to do it. I'll answer any questions said person has along the way and even find the OS entry points, but I don't want to actually do the porting.

I think I'd be up for doing it. Can we make an exhaustive list of everything that would need to be altered? I'll try to name as many things as I can:

App needs new graphics
Run on RAM clear patch needs to be adjusted (New flash unlock needs to be used?)
Startup picture feature needs to be changed to some color format or removed
Catalog help and Omnicalc settings need to be removed
Contrast level saving needs to be changed to backlight level saving
LCD delay settings need to be removed
Custom font hook possibly needs to be adjusted
Font creator/editor needs to be adjusted and graphically redone
Text popups on key combos should be moved into status bar
Axe settings need to be removed
Label browser for BASIC programs needs to be graphically adjusted
Anything that deals with swapping flash/RAM pages

thepenguin77 · « **Reply #1003 on:** November 14, 2013, 11:26:50 pm »

I can't really contribute at all to this list considering I haven't even seen a CSE in real life.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #1004 on:** November 19, 2013, 01:28:30 am »

Question: Is it true that ZStart and Doors CS7 no longer conflicts with each others? TheCoder1998 just said that on IRC, but I couldn't find any info about such update/fix.

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