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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1035 on: December 31, 2013, 12:23:55 pm »
Awesome, good luck  :)
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1036 on: January 01, 2014, 02:32:33 pm »
hey, can you make symbolic support for zstart?
because everytime i use symbolic the hooks reset :(
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1037 on: January 01, 2014, 03:29:44 pm »
Symbolic works perfect if you have Omnicalc, which is awesome by the way. So install Omnicalc and enable it in zStart. You don't need to do anything about Symbolic, just have the app on your calc. Problem solved. ;)

Little explanation : Omnicalc integrates Symbolic's functionality through its own parser hook without any chaining so you only need to enable Omnicalc to have both. Since zStart automatically sets up Omnicalc and chains to it during its init sequence, you basically have Symbolic natively.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1038 on: January 01, 2014, 03:35:48 pm »
That doesn't solve the problem for people with a regular 83+ without enough space to have zStart+Omnicalc+Symbolic(+Français+Period+Axe+MirageOS) ;)
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1039 on: January 01, 2014, 03:40:15 pm »
LOL true but he has an 84+SE iirc. Also except for Axe, all the apps you put in parentheses are useless (well I use Period because I can anyway :P, but a replacement program for it would be cool cause it sucks, blame TI for that).
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1040 on: January 01, 2014, 03:57:04 pm »
Quote from: Streetwalker on January 01, 2014, 03:40:15 pm
LOL true but he has an 84+SE iirc.
True, but that doesn't prevent thepenguin77 from adding an option :P

Quote from: Streetwalker on January 01, 2014, 03:40:15 pm
Also except for Axe, all the apps you put in parentheses are useless (well I use Period because I can anyway :P, but a replacement program for it would be cool cause it sucks, blame TI for that).
Français is indeed useless (especially for coders), but in maths class, some teachers might want you to put your calc in French so that they say the same word to 82 Stats.fr and 83+ users. And Period can be useful in exams when you don't know the Z for the Oxygen (don't worry for me, I know it :P).
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1041 on: January 01, 2014, 04:40:41 pm »
Well anyway since we know our calcs better than teachers we don't need a translation. :P Also my math teachers gave us the equivalent commands for both French and English versions.
And don't worry I know the Z of oxygen too. :P I didn't say Period was useless, just that it's a random piece of junk that needs a complete rewrite. :P (lots of :P)

Also let's not drift too far off topic.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1042 on: January 01, 2014, 04:51:24 pm »
Quote from: Streetwalker on January 01, 2014, 03:29:44 pm
Symbolic works perfect if you have Omnicalc, which is awesome by the way. So install Omnicalc and enable it in zStart. You don't need to do anything about Symbolic, just have the app on your calc. Problem solved. ;)

Little explanation : Omnicalc integrates Symbolic's functionality through its own parser hook without any chaining so you only need to enable Omnicalc to have both. Since zStart automatically sets up Omnicalc and chains to it during its init sequence, you basically have Symbolic natively.

Well, in my opinion, problem solved :P
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1043 on: January 01, 2014, 05:56:29 pm »
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without enough space to have zStart+Omnicalc+Symbolic(+Français+Period+Axe+MirageOS)

AlphaCS is smaller if you don't need all the libs and stuff Mirage has.
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=871
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1044 on: January 02, 2014, 04:48:35 am »
well if i want to use a symbolic funtion (like csc) i get ERR:ARGUMENT
so they still don't work :(

EDIT: oh never mind i forgot to run omnicalc, now they work ;D
thanks for the help guys :thumbsup:
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1045 on: January 02, 2014, 05:51:57 am »
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without enough space to have zStart+Omnicalc+Symbolic(+Français+Period+Axe+MirageOS)

AlphaCS is smaller if you don't need all the libs and stuff Mirage has.
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=871
Well the goal when having MirageOS on the calc is to have MirageOS libs, otherwise it is useless with zStart already on the calc.

edit and I am not the one who downrated you.
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1046 on: January 02, 2014, 07:34:43 am »
Quote from: ClrDraw on January 01, 2014, 05:56:29 pm
AlphaCS is smaller if you don't need all the libs and stuff Mirage has.
well i don't use AlphaCS because i use DoorsCS and i like the DCSBlibs, but thanks for mentioning it :)

EDIT: so, could graph3 also have support for zstart? because i like that program too (i'm not demanding anything :))
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1047 on: January 04, 2014, 01:35:25 pm »
btw before i forget it transfering zStart with tilp worked for me and is awesome!
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1048 on: January 05, 2014, 05:43:59 pm »
You should make a version of zstart that allows the user to enable password protection when ram is cleared. One that VARS or CLEAR won't break.

Not related to zStart, but is there a way to disable on + del?
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Re: zStart - an app that runs on ram clears
« Reply #1049 on: January 05, 2014, 09:36:26 pm »
People who want Graph3 and Symbolic (or either) should check this post. The program will install the hooks for the app if it is on your calculator.

It looks like if you use Symbolic, the zStart parser hook will be overwritten, so install omnicalc if that's an issue for you.


Quote from: ClrDraw on January 05, 2014, 05:43:59 pm
You should make a version of zstart that allows the user to enable password protection when ram is cleared. One that VARS or CLEAR won't break.

Not related to zStart, but is there a way to disable on + del?

I could... but that requires work. If you make me the password input routine, I'll put it in a version of zStart for you.
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