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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #210 on: May 01, 2011, 11:17:36 pm »
Sorry to hear uberspire. However I hope the changes doesn't mean a restart from scratch. That tends to curse such projects, because the delays discourages people and people take the project less seriously when there are too many redesigns. I hope you don't change it too much either.

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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #211 on: May 01, 2011, 11:53:20 pm »
Really what I would like to see is a graphing calc that is as powerful as possible while still be classroom and test certified. Because with the professional edition we are dealing with a very small market of pure calc gamers like us. but the standard edition ought to be enjoyed by all. 

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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #212 on: May 11, 2011, 12:33:49 am »
I just want colour, 3D graphing, CAS, and being easily programmable.

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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #213 on: May 11, 2011, 12:35:18 am »
That would probably be the CAS-Standard(student) version rokem
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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #214 on: May 11, 2011, 08:01:23 pm »
I agree with z80man. I hope it will still be a calculator that's basically a small computer in disguise. I already have a project I'm working out for the UGX.

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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #215 on: May 20, 2011, 12:35:58 am »
Hey, so it's been two weeks and here's what's happening. It's been troublesome to work on the ARM Cortex A8 design, being that I thought it would be possible to route the PCB within 4 layers. It turns out more layers are needed with all the hardware (WiFi, sound, etc.) and the costs of prototyping would be way too much to handle in the situation I'm in. I have a feeling that continuing on this path of design, would be a blunder, being that a calculator of this magnitude would only target a very small minority of the people who use graphing calculators.

So the decision is to revert back to my previous old design (ARM11, 600MHz) and have that set as the low-end range of the UGX line and as the debut product. I figured it would be better to start out with something that resembles a traditional graphing calculator, something that looks like it's useable in school, but still very powerful. Also, the hardware has already been proven to work and the good news is that the parts have gotten cheaper for this design. To those who wanted the 1GHz ARM Cortex A9 UGX, it will have to be shelved for now. Maybe sometime in the future, it'll fill in the mid range spot of the UGX line, hopefully if the 600MHz ARM11 UGX does well.

With the pricing going down for the parts in the low-end UGX, the plan is that the low-end UGX will sell cheaper than the TI-nSpire CX (~$140-$150), yet still be more powerful all around compared to the CX.

The front part of this UGX casing has been printed and is being to used to help guide and layout the internal hardware:


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So as you can see from the casing, the low-end UGX looks school friendly. The LCD being used in this prototype has a resolution of 320x480 pixels, just like the iPhone 3G. In fact, the plan is to use surplus iPhone replacement LCDs to help lower the cost of the design while at the same time give the UGX the highest resolution LCD of any graphing calculator made. So if you hate that I'm temporarily ditching the current UGX design, hopefully you'll be pleased with this. :)

The hardware, right now, is being retrofitted for this case and I should be able to get a working unit sometime by next month along with the buttons/keys.

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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #216 on: May 20, 2011, 12:42:28 am »
I see, that seems good to me, although I hope it won't be white :P As for the LCD what is your plans if Apple ever decided to change the iPod LCD completely or even discontinue it? Would the calc LCD changes too?

It would be nice if you re-introduce the old design if it was backward compatible with this version, though.

One suggestion, though: Try to not restart from scratch over and over all the time, though, switching designs, because on Omnimaga forums, when projects do that, people takes them less and less seriously over the time, because they never even progress at all and simply causes false hopes. If this happens, the project barely ever gets anymore replies at one point, because everyone lost all hope and they expect the project to see another rewrite in a few months. I myself was very disappointed when this happened to UbergraphX, and I admit I am not as confident to see it finished as I was prior your post announcing the complete changes. :(
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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #217 on: May 20, 2011, 08:31:09 am »
It looks good. I'm a little sad about how you at least temporarily got rid of the 1GHz ARM Cortex A9. That sounded like it would be fun to have. I guess we just have to make your business go well so you cn start making those.

Your design looks a lot like the Nspire... TI might get angry at you for that

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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #218 on: May 20, 2011, 09:24:14 pm »
Yeah, I have to agree with the two above posts.  I have less confidence in this project without the A9, and the original design.  I'd be welling to pay MORE than an nSpire for the original design, simply because it can do MUCH more.  I have no problem with paying more money, if that's what you need to be able to continue with the project.

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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #219 on: May 20, 2011, 09:28:31 pm »
He might have to start with the lower design levels because of production costs though. Maybe once his business is up and rnning he can ad in the developer with A9. I think this is a wondeful project and very much hope it doesn't die
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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #220 on: May 20, 2011, 09:32:21 pm »
Agreed.
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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #221 on: May 31, 2011, 03:47:23 pm »
How wil the final model look? Like the cases you've posted earlyer(Which looks a bit like the nspire) or like the picture on your site(Where it looks more like a laptop)
Or is the nspire like model the cheap version and lhe laptop like version the professional edition?

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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #222 on: June 01, 2011, 12:33:03 am »
Why don't you market the original higher end version as a handheld computer to widen the market?

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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #223 on: June 01, 2011, 08:36:50 am »
But than teachers would complain about us having them in school
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Re: UberGraphX - Ubercalculator
« Reply #224 on: June 01, 2011, 03:23:12 pm »
But than teachers would complain about us having them in school
Teachers are going to complain about it being not-TI.  I have no interest in over-throwing a big company like TI.  I would rather it be marketed as a small computer, and wouldn't care about it being used in school or not.  Most teachers wouldn't let you use the bigger version, whether you called it a calculator or not.